Linux and Vista on the same box?

A little while ago, I started getting Blue Screens of Death on a very regular basis. No, I have no idea what’s causing it. I’m loath to take it into the shop now, with Windows Vista coming up in a few short months – but there’s another consideration I have: Linux on the second hard drive.

Having noticed Windows Vista RC2 just now available, I’m wondering if installs of Vista allow for people to still run their machines as dual-boot between Linux (in my case, Kanotix) and Windows. If Vista horks the dual-boot, but I can re-install Kanotix and dual-boot from then on, that’s okay. I’m just wondering what the test results are. That will help me determine whether I upgrade to Vista final when it’s out, wait a little while for the boot loader to adapt, or wait for something else to happen.

Also, for anyone who tried an upgrade to Vista from XP and already had Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition installed, I’d like to know how the upgrade went; I use VC2005 for my compiler on Windows XP, and would like to know how that affected using the compiler.

Please no “Linux is the way to go, wipe out Windows” statements or anything like that. I don’t need religious puritanism in tech; I develop code for Mozilla-based applications, and having multiple operating systems at my disposal, including Windows and Linux, is essential. For those of you who say I should be on Fedora Core or some RPM-based distro instead of Kanotix’s Debian approach, I’m already considering buying a laptop with Fedora Core 6 on it when that becomes available (FC5 wouldn’t install on my desktop), so don’t try that either. 🙂

7 thoughts on “Linux and Vista on the same box?”

  1. Just like with XP/2003.
    Installing Vista *after* Linux will wipe out your LILO/Grub/whatever from the MBR, but after you recover it (e.g. by booting from a Live CD and reinstalling the bootloader), there are no problems with having a Vista/Linux dual-boot.
    That’s what I’m currently using, actually (Vista beta 2 + SLED 10).

  2. For diagnosing your blue screen of death, your system should be creating minidumps and offering to send them to Microsoft when you next log in as an administrator. If their online crash analysis site has no information on your crash, I would recommend downloading Debugging Tools for Windows (free) and pointing it to the Microsoft symbol server. Once that is done, load the minidump in WinDbg and you can get the stack tract and a likely cause. More than likely it is a driver or security software. Those are the biggest causes of blue screens of death.
    (From Alex: Drop me an e-mail, Brant. I’d like to talk with you in detail on this. The minidumps are getting sent, all right, but I keep getting file association errors, saying my computer doesn’t know how to display the results. I also need help figuring out where the minidumps are and where the symbol server is.)

  3. I’ve installed Vista Beta2 and RC1 on my laptop and dual-boot with Ubuntu… No problems except for when I install Linux, GRUB does not recognize Vista as an OS, so I had to wrote the Windows-boot command lines myself… but, they work together just fine…

  4. > Installing Vista *after* Linux will wipe out your
    > LILO/Grub/whatever from the MBR, but after you
    > recover it (e.g. by booting from a Live CD and
    > reinstalling the bootloader), there are no
    > problems with having a Vista/Linux dual-boot.
    If you install LILO bootloader on one of your primary partitions, instead of the MBR, you don’t even have to use recovery disk, it’s enough to change the active partition flag in Windows.

  5. >>For those of you who say I should be on Fedora Core or some RPM-based distro instead of Kanotix’s Debian approach, I’m already considering buying a laptop with Fedora Core 6 on it when that becomes available (FC5 wouldn’t install on my desktop), so don’t try that either. 🙂
    If you want to try getting Linux working now without another machine you could try the free vmware server. http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ or the less memory intensive vmplayer (but its not as nice). You could run the Windows or Linux Version. I run vmware server now in windows with with Unbuntu installed in it. It *may* even get you around your hardware installation issues as some of the peripherals ie video card, hard drive, and others are emulated (which means you loose 3d hardware acceleration :-().
    (From Alex: Well, the truth is I need a laptop anyway…)

  6. Ahoi!
    Below is my recent experiance with the blue screens.
    I had the same “blue” problem on Win2k. One time in the beginning of Sept. 2-3 more times at the end of Sept. And 10 times last week. At last I downloaded HDD test utilities from Maxtor and WD (for both of mine HDDs respectively). The Maxtor’s test showed errors that could not be repaired. After removing the drive all worked just fine (last 6 days). I used the Maxtor’s HDD only as a store (not as boot device). Curiously I didn’t have any problems with the archiving of the data on it after I already had found the problems (except 2 broken DVD+Rs caused by the same blue screens in the middle of the backup burns).
    HTH!
    sunsande

  7. Hi,
    I have some problems dual booting vista and linux. I have Vista OS already installed and am trying to install LINUX but it gives me an error of
    BusyBox v1.1.3(Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)
    /bin/sh: can’t access tty; job control turned off
    And when i restart my computer, there is an error loading GRUB, it says
    GRUB Loading stage1.5
    GRUB loading, please wait…
    Error 22
    and i can’t go to Vista anymore.
    Anyone knows how to solve this problem? Thank you.

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