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GMail advertising Firefox?

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Anyone know who these guys are?
I’ve looked at the source code, and it looks like they simply put the Firefox website in an iframe

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UPDATE: Judging by the consensus, most people seem to think it’s harmless. I think I inadvertently gave Netiviti more points at SpreadFirefox than they fairly deserve, because so many people looked into it… so I’ll probably ask a SpreadFirefox staff member to invalidate the numbers for the next two or three days for Netiviti. Just to be fair to other players in this game.

24 thoughts on “GMail advertising Firefox?”

  2. I don’t even see the SFX banner. It’s a poor mirror of moz.org’s actual FF page. Methinks some sort of action is needed.

  4. Perhaps they are admirers. They’re just displaying mozilla.org in an iframe. Although it would be better to just link to it.
    We should be happy for the free advertising.

  6. Clever, if a bit suspect. The idea being the mention of Firefox gets people to click it, and then once on their site they’re hoping you’ll use the nav bar on the left and buy hosting off them
    The easiest way to deal with things like this is to add to the head of mozilla.org’s pages, and any link followed will then break free from any frameset it has been put in.

  7. If anything were to be done, I’d suggest a polite e-mail thanking them for support, and asking them to regularly link to mozilla.org.
    But, I think their actions are harmless.

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  9. I don’t see anything wrong with it. They have a Web Links section, just instead of opening in a new window it opens in a frame for convience. They’re not charging for it or anything.

  12. It must a google/ links mistake… It does not appears this was whe you surf their main site.
    They are apearently a hosting division of some company. On their main site they have a section with recommended links. It is here firefox is listed and clicking on the link give you the mozilla.org frontpage, but not in a iframe.

  13. I think that they are trying to be helpful and supply a bit of free publicity. They provide hosting services and domain registration from what I can see at a quick glance, so they have little to gain but a warm feeling in their hearts.

  14. Looks to me like they’re admirers, they have it one weblunks part of their site under “Netiviti Reccomends”, although that link opens in a new window/tab.

  17. They’re just promoting a browser of choice for their users, within a frame that keeps the user browsing their site, as very many sites do.

  20. Just to be fair to other players in this game.
    It’s a shame spreading Firefox is now looked at as a “game” and people are being looked down upon for doing something that is getting the word out. Even paying google to help get the word out they’re being looked down upon.
    There isn’t much of a game about spreadfirefox.com
    Most people already have the “prizes” offered. [Gmail accounts and Firefox shirts] It’s not like they’re getting some fantastic prize of a huge value.
    (From Alex: That was not my intent. You’re reading too much into the choice of word there 🙂 )

  24. It doesn’t get more people to check out Firefox!! If you go to google.com, type in Firefox and you see the netiviti ad on the right. It’s simply trying to get users looking for Firefox to click there so its SFX points go up, earning it a spot on the frontpage’s top 5 list. Then, netiviti or whatever gets extra users to its commercial site, making it money.
    This is *completely dishonest* and SFX needs to delete this user so as to keep integrity for their stats.
    (From Alex: I just deleted a comment that basically was a troll attacking andkon. I decide who gets posted, not andkon or anyone else. I decide it based on whether the comment is intelligent enough to make a legitimate point or not. Whoever decided to flame andkon did not offer a reasonable argument, so it didn’t get posted.)

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